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The podcast where two friends, who are also philosophy professors, put ideas in dialogue with the everyday.

I'm Dr. Ellie Anderson.

And I'm Dr. David Peña-Gusman.

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They need to be overthinkers. Yes. Okay. So, David, we're going to be speaking

a little bit later to the philosopher Lewis Gordon about his book Fear of Black Consciousness.

And we have some time now to think a little bit about some of the arguments there before we speak to

him, as well as how they relate to the work of some other Black philosophers. So I want to actually

start by sharing with our listeners the beginning of Gordon's book,

which is about his own upbringing and the development of what he calls black consciousness.

Gordon was born in Jamaica in 1962, a few months before it became legally independent from the British Empire.

And he says that growing up in Jamaica,

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