There's only two ways. The way that doesn't work is epiphany. And I've talked about that since 2011.

You know, give the whole company an epiphany or have an epiphany about exercise. You can't make that happen.

The second way that works is you redesign the environment. And if you need to create a big change quickly, that's how you do it.

You redesign the environment. You make the behaviors you want

really, really easy to do by redesigning the environment. That's the built environment, the physical

environment, the digital environment, the social environment, and the behaviors you don't want

people to do, you make it harder to do.

Hello and welcome to Franklin Covey on leadership.

I'm your host, Will Hodolin.

Today is a special New Year's Resolution edition of the podcast in which we're going to talk to

Dr. BJ Fogg about habit formation.

Dr. Fogg is a behavioral scientist who has spent decades studying how individuals,

teams, and organizations actually change behavior. He's the founder of Stanford's

Behavior Design Lab, the creator of the Fogg Behavior Model, and the author of the New York

Times bestselling book, Tiny Habits. In today's conversation, we'll walk through his model for behavior

change. We'll talk about the habits that he's developing in his own life and the systems that

he's implemented to ensure he's effectively building those habits and how you can bring his

model of habit formation and behavior change to your organization. B.J. Fogg, welcome to Franklin

Covey on leadership. Well, hello. I'm happy to be here. Thanks for inviting me. B.J. Fogg, welcome to Franklin Covey on leadership.

Well, hello. I'm happy to be here. Thanks for inviting me. Wonderful. I'm very excited for today's conversation. So we are recording shortly after the beginning of a new year when many people are

working on resolution. So let's start personal. What is your New Year's resolution? Oh, you know,

I don't make traditional resolutions because I create habits throughout the year whenever I want.

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