Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Koppelman. My guest today is, hey, it's real possible that you don't, you don't

know him yet. And it's rare that I have somebody this young on the podcast but the music that this man makes

has made it worthwhile for me to get to know him and to have him on the pod so my guess today is

B.J. Barham who is the songwriter, singer, and I mean it

basically is the band American Aquarium and they made an album this year that, or I guess 2018, but I still consider

it like this year over the last 12 or 15 months.

That's just one of my absolute favorite albums,

the last long while.

And I was a fan before that, and B Jan,

I started communicating online.

And I was just so happy, man, that you actually knock this one out of the park.

Well me too.

After years of making a little bit of contact and watching it foul off,

it was nice to watch something hit the

sweet spot and actually get up and sail away. You know it was we felt really good

about this record. We knew when we left the studio they're like, wow, this is better than anything we've ever done.

This might have a chance of actually like hitting people.

Well, you know, in the past, I have a lot of questions about this,

but I mean, there were always songs on these

records that clearly demonstrated your promise as an artist like you know

losing side of 25 man I'm supposed to be, there were songs that were very clear indicators of you wanting to play in the major leagues, but then I would go and listen to the albums like these were bad albums they were very fucking good albums I know exactly what you mean they were very good albums as a writer I feel that way I feel like my entire career has been like there's three or four songs off each record

that are like wow that's a that's great but then as a whole it just kind of fell short of what

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