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Bits + Bips: Why Bitcoin Was Strong Amid the DeepSeek Selloff But a Drop May Be Coming - Ep. 774

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

From AI shaking up Big Tech to bitcoin’s role in the macro landscape, Jim Bianco delivers insights on the DeepSeek-triggered market selloff, memecoins, and the challenges facing traditional systems. In this episode, the macro strategist shares why DeepSeek’s AI model is reshaping competition, how crypto reserves might evolve, and what happens to MicroStrategy if bitcoin’s price takes a hit. Plus, hear his take on why stablecoins are a threat to banks, and why memecoins could be more than speculation. Show highlights: What of crypto attracted Jim so much 0:49 What of crypto attracted Jim so much 6:15 Why the DeepSeek new model was so disruptive 12:47 Whether the biggest loser is OpenAI, not all the Mag 7 16:14 Whether we’ll see a major macro response from U.S. companies and government 26:06 What will happen next with the price of bitcoin 28:54 What would happen to MSTR if bitcoin goes 30% lower 34:11 How Trump was able to move so fast since the inauguration 39:30 Why the Fed should not do QE, according to Jim 49:02 How memecoins could be designed to be much more than speculative assets 53:03 Why James hopes the SEC doesn’t approve all the memecoin ETF applications 58:06 Whether banks will start onboarding crypto companies 1:05:52 Why stablecoins poise an existential threat to the current banking system 1:11:19 Whether it’s a bad idea for the U.S. to acquire other cryptos that are not bitcoin Hosts: James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  Guest: Jim Bianco, President and Macro Strategist at Bianco Research Links CNN Business: Trump announces a $500 billion AI infrastructure investment in the US Unchained: Tuttle Capital Files for 10 Leveraged Crypto ETFs CoinDesk: Nasdaq Files for In-Kind Redemptions for BlackRock Spot Bitcoin ETF Reuters: US, Colombia reach deal on deportations; tariff, sanctions put on hold Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If there's been anything that's come out of defy, it's definitely been stable coins.

0:03.8

If you're going to put an ecosystem around that of trading and of banking and of lending

0:08.2

and borrowing, it's going to be around stable points.

0:11.3

But that is an existential threat to the current banking system.

0:16.4

And that's really where the Fed steps up.

0:18.3

That's why I said, why is the Fed approved no charters since Dodd-Frank?

0:24.2

Because ultimately, at the end of the day, they're protecting the existing incumbents.

0:29.3

And they like the system we have.

0:31.9

Hi, everyone.

0:32.9

Welcome to Bits and Bips, exploring how crypto and macro collide one business point in time.

0:36.2

I'm your host, James Seyford, Bradfairch, Archmaister, Lord of Blueberg's End,

0:39.6

here with Rahm Al-Aliya, Mastor of Wealth, leader of Lumido.

0:43.1

What's going on?

0:44.6

Noel Acheson, hi, seeer, and keeper of the Crypto's Macro Now newsletter.

0:48.7

Hello, everyone.

0:50.0

We're here to discuss the latest stories in the world of crypto and macro. Just remember that nothing we say here is investment advice, please check on chaincrypto.com

0:56.5

slash bits and bips for more disclosures.

0:59.0

Today we are also joined by Jim Bianco, the macro oracle of Bianco research.

1:04.0

Jim, why don't you give us a little bit of a rundown before we dive in on who you are, what you do, and how you are involved in the crypto space at all.

1:13.4

Yeah, thanks, James. Jim Bianco, I am macro president of Bianco Research. I've been doing that

1:20.5

since the late 1990s. I cover mainly a fixed income market, a lot of macro kind of themes for our

1:29.3

institutional clients. About a year and a half ago, I started an index called the Bianco Research

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