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Bits + Bips: What CFTC Oversight Could Mean For Crypto As Trump's Chair Pick Crosses Key Senate Hurdle - Ep. 957

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Thank you to our sponsors! Mantle Walrus President Donald Trump's pick for chair, Mike Selig, has cleared the Senate Agriculture Committee just as lawmakers look set to hand over crypto oversight to the agency. In this episode, former CFTC Chair Chris Giancarlo joins Unchained Executive Editor Steven Ehrlich to unpack Selig's Senate hearing. Chris shares his experience working with Mike, why the CFTC should get more resources to handle crypto and crypto's unique commodity trading structure. He also touches on the challenges the agency could face regulating crypto, whether exchanges should be allowed to continue performing several functions under one umbrella, the timeline for CLARITY and the regulatory path ahead for prediction markets. Host: Steve Ehrlich, Executive Editor at Unchained Guest: J. Christopher Giancarlo, Former Commissioner of the CTFC Links: Unchained: Prospective CFTC Chair Says It’s ‘Vitally Important to Have a Cop On The Beat’ in Crypto Senate Committee Shares Bipartisan Draft on Crypto Market Structure Bill The Chopping Block: When Wall Street Meets DeFi — How Equity Perps and RWAs Redefine Leverage On-Chain DEX in the City: Are Prediction Markets Gambling, and Who Should Regulate Them? Polymarket Quietly Relaunches in U.S. in Beta Mode: Report Timestamps: 🚀 00:00 Introduction  ⚡️1:41 Chris details his experience working with Mike Selig 🤔 6:34 Does the CFTC have enough resources to handle crypto? 📽 10:34 Crypto’s unique commodity trading structure 🧱 13:37 The challenges the CFTC could face with crypto's unique trading structure 🤔 15:15 Should crypto exchanges remain vertically integrated? 💡17:25 How DeFi should be regulated 🧏 20:46 Why Chris says crypto perps do not need new laws 🔮 24:49 Mike's confirmation timeline 💥 25:46 Why prediction markets are important 👀 27:57 Why Chris compares the regulatory trajectory of prediction markets to Uber 💡 28:57 What regulations could look like for prediction markets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I think the crypto community is excited about Mike, but so is the whole CFTC community. So

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there were 20 different ad groups that wrote to the ad committee endorsing Mike's nomination

1:57.6

of CFTC chair. So it's not, you know, Crypto Bro goes to CFTC. This is somebody who's

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had a decade-long practice in all aspects of CFTC law and jurisdiction and is accomplished

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on all those areas.

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Hi, everyone. Welcome to Bits and Bips the interview. I'm your host, Steve Ehrlich, Executive Editor,

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and Archine. I'm here with a good friend of mine, Chris Giancarlo, former chair of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Welcome, Chris.

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