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Bits + Bips: Trump Will Soon Be President. Where Will Bitcoin and Crypto Prices Go? - Ep. 761

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Business News, Tech News

4.6 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Bitcoin crossed the $100,000 mark, only to slump back down on Tuesday, sparking debates about what’s next for the crypto markets. In this episode, James Seyffart and Alex Kruger are joined by Charles Edwards of quant fund Capriole Investments to break down the macro trends shaping Bitcoin’s trajectory. From Trump’s inauguration to the Fed’s looming decisions on quantitative tightening, they analyze the key factors influencing risk assets. Plus, they unpack the premium on MicroStrategy’s BTC holdings, the future of AI agents in crypto and whether AI agent swarms might someday hire humans, and their bold predictions —supercycle? SOL ETFs?—for 2025. Show highlights: 01:54 Why bitcoin broke the $100K level again 07:28 How the markets will react to the inauguration of Donald Trump as President 19:09 What factors will affect the Fed’s next decision on rates 26:38 What the premium of MSTR to its BTC holdings should be 34:37 Why they all hate the current version of AI agents 43:19 Why Charles likes Ethena and ENA 45:49 Alex’s and Charles’ thoughts on what to expect in 2025: supercycle incoming? 50:01 Alex’s analysis on the market corrections and what they teach us 57:34 Whether James believes the spot Solana ETF will be approved this year Hosts: James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard Guest: Charles Edwards, founder of Capriole Investments  Links Capriole Investments | Update #58 MicroStrategy just bought another $100m in Bitcoin on path to $2bn spree – DL News With AI Agents Now Trading Crypto, What Does Their Future Look Like? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

There's a lot of uncertainty with all these things trump, the fared and rates and things,

0:04.6

but most of the uncertainty is skewed to the upside.

0:07.7

Like you say, like if there's a change, it's probably going to be positive.

0:11.3

It doesn't have to happen, but it does set things up very well.

0:14.9

And as you say, equity is going to and risk on attitudes across Tradfire are going to drive this.

0:20.1

So if it's positive equities, Bitcoin and crypto is just going to be risk on attitudes across Tradfey are going to drive this. So if it's positive

0:21.4

equities, Bitcoin and crypto is just going to be, you know, double or more.

0:26.3

Hi, everyone. Welcome to bits and bips, exploring how crypto and macro collide, one basis point

0:30.4

at a time. I'm your host, James Safert, Tradfair Archmister, Lord of Bloomer's End, here with Alex Kruger, Kruger Macro of House Asgard.

0:42.4

Today, we are also joined by Charles Edwards, sage of strategy, and sovereign of Capriole.

0:45.7

We're here to discuss the latest stories in the worlds of crypto and macro.

0:48.2

Just remember that nothing we say here is investment advice.

0:55.0

Please check Unchained Crypto.com slash bits and bips for more disclosures. All right, guys. Charles, before we get into it,

0:58.3

why don't you give us a brief background on who you are and what you do in the crypto industry?

1:00.9

Yes, sure.

1:01.2

Thanks, James.

1:02.3

So I'm founder of caprioli investments.

1:06.0

We've been running primarily Bitcoin trading strategy,

1:09.4

investment strategy for the last, coming on six years now

1:13.3

and managing the cap payroll hedge fund.

1:16.8

We also, it's primarily quant strategy, Bitcoin, alts, but also in the last year or so,

1:22.8

we've been getting into equities as well.

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