Welcome to the big interview bite size. I'm Graham Hunter and in each episode you'll hear an elite footballer tell a story that's guaranteed to brighten your day. All of them will come from my

podcast, The Big Interview with Graham Hunter, which you can find by searching on Spotify or wherever

you get your podcasts. Everybody, all of you will know about Rowl more or less. But Victor just mentioned that he was about 19. It was a second

season. He was breaking through 42 matches, 41 starts, 21 goals for Real Madrid under Capello in the title winning season.

He's been ignored a little bit, but an astonishing footballer.

He wasn't, he's a huge strong character but at that stage probably he wasn't one of the bosses of the

the dressing room, the training ground, the restaurant, the boss journeys. But who was?

I'm guessing that even though he was relatively new at the club, Iero already was somebody

who wanted to be a boss. You've mentioned Sanchis.

Said Orf always thought he was right about everything all the time.

Whenever guests was Sven Nure and Erickson who coached him at Santoria and Sven gave us 15 minutes of how we had to re-educate said

offer but why do I have to work? Just give me the ball and I'll do special things.

Who have we not?

And you can see nowadays how he is fit.

He keeps feet now.

He's in the same age like me.

We are very good friends.

We were teammates when he was Richard R. Madrid.

He could still play. He could still play world-class football.

Yeah, so how it's ridiculous. How it changed the mentality of a player?

Because we are kids, we are kids, but we are kids that we want to learn.

If you want to learn, you improve much than others.

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