Welcome to the big interview bite size. I'm Graham Hunter and in each episode

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Real Ferdinand once invented his absolute rage at Sir Alex

and was fortunate not to be sold from Manchester United as a result,

but he never doubted Furious Fergie's genius.

Yet there was a flaw to that genius exposed when he left Manchester United to open in the

2009 and 2011 Champions League Final defeats to Barcelona. Rio Ferdinand found

the latter defeat particularly embarrassing and he tells us about it. a being at Hamden Park in 1960 watching Real Madrid 73 having I'm an Aberdeen

supporter I saw him win two trophies for us to Stefano is the coach of Real Madrid

when we beat him in the Cupness Cup final.

The romance, the need for him ego-wise, and ego is a good thing to be considered

one of the European greats meant that he treated European football differently.

And in my humble opinion, he went to Rome saying,

we'll play them, we'll play them,

we'll toe to toe them, we'll play front foot,

we'll win and we'll make a show of winning.

Whereas if he's got Fletcher and Hargreaves then I think you can

understand that point of view but his information I don't know what you think I think

it was a general perception that Terry O' Reonry won't play it was true that Raffa Marquez was out, that Terry-Ondry won't play. It was true that Ruffa-Marquez was out,

that Danny Alvis was out, that Eric Abidal was out. They played together. They played 26

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