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Individual results may vary. You're going to be. Welcome to the big interview bite size. I'm Graham Hunter and in each episode

you'll hear an elite footballer tell a story that's guaranteed to brighten your day.

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To a scuntag. Today's story comes from Rayner Bonhoeff, a World Cup winner with Germany.

Here he is on 1974, the Limpistadion in Munich,

Johann Kreuf and a gigantic football match. The Dutch was the best team in the World Cup, playing football at an extraordinary level that was like this.

And the other point is in my understanding and my feeling after all these years,

when they when they was after the penalty showing us the capacity they had in playing football in passing

one touch two touch and that that is not good for a German team that they the opponents give you a lesson that is not really good for the German mentality.

So, and then we started watching each other

and I said at this time to Wolfgangova,

hate that it's impossible.

We have to fight now that it's not Germany so we have to go and and

fighting down. So and then it became this situation when Grabovsky was in trouble on the right side and I saw he was only

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