Welcome to the thick interview bite size. I'm Graham Hunter and in each episode

you'll hear an elite football or tell a story that's guaranteed to brighten your day.

All of them will come from my podcast,

the big interview with Graham Hunter,

which you can find by searching on Spotify

or wherever you get your podcasts. We're not in the box, but I'm going to ping one out, you know, see how your touches.

Who's Havoc?

Havoc.

Go back right.

And it's a serious question because...

It's a good question.

I just never had that question before my life. I can't reveal my sources yet.

It's gone.

That's ridiculous.

That's ridiculous. I don't know what he was. I think he was I'd like to know. He was hair wire I think

or Jack Bauer. Whoa whoa. A flesh that, whoa, who's been done.

Lata, I'll tell you where it's from.

With the purpose of my question in just to have fun,

you talked about earning your spurs in the box and earning trust, whatever, but there are moments

when you need to build team spirit and make people who are shy, come out.

So therefore, back to Haywire and Havoc and explain it for the people please who don't know what's going on.

I'll try my best.

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