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You're in for the ride of your life where we're going to 10x everything you thinks, the way you work, the way you act, and the way you roll every single day. Make sure you subscribe and comment. Love to see what you're talking about. Get ready for today's show. Today I have, Joe, how do you pronounce your last name? Carlos Garry? Carlisari. Carlisari. Callis sorry. And you're a partner at Omnidustin? Amundsen Davis. Amundsen Davis. Okay. Which is a big, it's a big law firm, right? Yeah, it's 230 attorneys based out of Chicago. We've got offices throughout the Midwest, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, St. Louis.

I forget them all, but it's a big full-service law firm. Yeah, and I didn't bring you here

for your legal expertise, but because I've been so impressed in so many rooms on X where we

were talking about the economy, I just liked a number of your views that you have that

are a bit contrarian to what I often hear in these Duma rooms. Yeah. Yeah. I know. So I come up from a

background where my dad, I was blessed. He taught me how to monitor the market, learn about finance.

Really before I was even in high school, throughout all of high school and college, I had a total fascination with economics, studying the history of it, trying to learn what they got right, what they got wrong. I think what's practical versus what is theoretical, which is a huge specialty of mine to try to bring that to space. And yeah, even though I'm by day, I'm a lawyer. I'm an active student of the markets,

always trying to learn, always trying to manage my own money, manage some family accounts as well.

And I think I've done a good job. So on a daily, like, how are you managing? Or can you talk

about, you know, what you manage on a daily? Yeah. So, you know, professionally, I manage a team

of about seven attorneys currently at my firm. We are full service, Yeah. So, you know, professionally, I manage a team of about seven attorneys

currently at my firm. We are full service, right? So we do the full gamut of insurance coverage

litigation, commercial disputes, breach of fiduciary duty claims, securities claims I'm involved

with. But then I've developed a grant really for the last, really about 10 years now,

a niche practice that has

grown and it's now consuming more and more of my book of business, which is in the crypto space.

So I am involved in litigated disputes against exchanges. I represent various Bitcoin miners,

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