BITCOIN SEASON 2: Bitcoin Was Always Political w/ Casey Rodarmor
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🗓️ 2 July 2025
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Casey Rodarmor discusses Bitcoin politics, ordinals/runes development, stablecoins, and his wild new project adding Chinese numerology and divination features to Bitcoin ordinals protocol.
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Casey Rodarmor, creator of Bitcoin Ordinals and Runes protocols, joins us to talk about his frustration with Bitcoin politics, why he thinks Bitcoiners are becoming too cozy with politicians, the future of ordinals and runes adoption, his thoughts on stablecoins, and his fascinating new project to integrate Chinese numerology and divination systems into Bitcoin through SAT-based fortune telling.
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**NOTES:**
• Bitcoin currently trading at $110,000
• Runes has built-in 4-year hype cycle for names
• One-letter rune names unlock in final phase
• Casey blames lack of creativity for runes adoption
• Stablecoins expand dollar demand globally
• Chinese numerology integration planned for ordinals
Timestamps:
00:00 Start
00:55 Tired of Ordinals & Runes?
03:25 Bitcoin is feeling weird
06:41 Politicians
10:02 Arch Network
10:34 Bitcoin & politics
12:02 Stablecoins
14:02 Hell Money Podcast
15:20 Numerology
22:04 Vaporware?
23:35 Interesting stuff right now
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| 0:00.0 | I have the inventor of ordinals and runes, Casey Rodamore, on this podcast. We talk about how Casey, |
| 0:06.7 | even though ordinals may be down, how Casey is going to improve and is new ideas for ordinals. |
| 0:13.7 | We also talk about things such as state sycophantism, Bitcoin going forward, how Casey likes to think |
| 0:19.9 | about Bitcoin as a more application |
| 0:22.1 | focused developer. This is one of the more spicy and fun conversations I've had. Casey |
| 0:26.8 | is a wonderful conversation. This conversation was recorded live at the inscribing Conference at Bitcoin Vegas, a Bitcoin Culture and Arts Conference. |
| 0:43.6 | Shout out inscribing. |
| 0:44.4 | Go to inscribing.com or at org events on X. |
| 0:48.5 | You're the Ornals and Rooms guy, but you're... |
| 0:50.8 | Are you tired of talking about Orinals and Roons by now? |
| 0:54.1 | No, honestly, I'm very happy to talk about them. |
| 0:56.8 | You know, they're, they're my babies. |
| 0:58.5 | They're things I love about them. |
| 0:59.9 | They're great. |
| 1:00.9 | I'm still, I still think they're fun. |
| 1:03.4 | Every day I go to Ordinals.com and I see what's kind of like been landing in blocks out |
| 1:07.6 | of the Mempool. |
| 1:09.7 | Roons, I think, is interesting. |
| 1:11.1 | I think everybody's sleeping on Roons. |
| 1:13.2 | It has this built-in four-year hype cycle where, you know, in three years, these like |
| 1:18.0 | one-letter legendary names are going to start dropping and people are going to realize like, |
| 1:21.9 | oh, shit, you know, it's like the ha, like, Roons has the having, too, except it's like the names. |
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