Bitcoin Privacy Through Statechains with Nicholas Gregory - WBD560
The Peter McCormack Show
Peter McCormack
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🗓️ 28 September 2022
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
Nicholas Gregory is the CEO of Commerce Block, the company behind Mercury Wallet. In this interview, we discuss how they have used statechains to develop a virtual version of Opendime, the balance of trust and privacy on layer 2 protocols, and onboarding Lightning users.
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One of the most novel innovations to come out of the Bitcoin ecosystem in recent years has been Opendime. The aim was to turn Bitcoin into a version of physical cash. An Opendime, is essentially a USB stick, that can be traded between individuals without the need to confirm such transactions on the bitcoin base chain. The USB can be verified but is only redeemed by the last user, by breaking the device and accessing its private key.
Opendime enables people to use Bitcoin as anonymous, untraceable cash. The limitation is that it requires a physical transfer. That was until Mercury Wallet was launched. Mercury Wallet is essentially a layer 2 protocol based on statechains. Statechains enable the offchain transfer of UTXOs (turned into a bearer asset referred to as a "statecoin") between parties.
The limitation of statechains is the requirement for a trusted third party, in this case, Mercury Wallet. The third party is non-custodial; they collaborate as a blind partner in the cryptographic transfer of keys. Whilst there are theoretical security issues, they have been mitigated by Mercury Wallet. The issue to overcome is what tradeoffs people are willing to make between ease of use, value transfer and security requirements.
But, this is just the first of a number of growing use cases for Mecury Wallet. It enables unlimited free swaps of Bitcoin UTXOs providing privacy benefits. Through the conversion of underlying assets into statecoins, the transfer of assets using Discreet Log Contracts can be facilitated. Further, by layering the Lightning network on top of statechains, it could even enable the transfer of Lightning channels.
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| 0:00.0 | We send around UTXOs. At the moment, those UTXO |
| 0:04.8 | the Bitcoin, they could be lightning channels. Now there's a lot of |
| 0:07.5 | complexity there, but I think that's where we're going to go, where you'd |
| 0:11.0 | be able to move around lightning channels and that's like swapping around |
| 0:13.6 | your checking account. |
| 0:14.8 | Hello there everybody how are you all? |
| 0:17.6 | Welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast which is brought to you by Gemini the only place I'm |
| 0:21.6 | using for buying Bitcoin. I'm your host Peter McCormack and place I'm using for buying Bitcoin. |
| 0:22.8 | I'm your host Peter McCormack, and today I'm chatting with Nicholas Gregory. |
| 0:26.7 | He is the CEO of Commerce Block, the guys behind Mercury Wallet. |
| 0:30.3 | Now, when I first heard about Mercury wallet, Danny said, |
| 0:33.0 | come on, we need to get this guy on. |
| 0:35.0 | But the idea of passing private keys around, |
| 0:37.4 | it sounded kind of crazy to me, |
| 0:39.2 | something that kind of breaks everything you're taught as a bit coiner but Danny was like come on man we need to talk to this guy we need to talk about state chains |
| 0:46.9 | Mowdell loves this shit we need to talk about it. So I was like fine Danny I trust you brother let's do this so yes we got Nicholas on the show going to give me the |
| 0:54.9 | down low on both mercury wallet and state chains now have you got any questions about |
| 0:58.7 | this or anything else you can reach out to me my email addresses hello at what |
| 1:02.1 | Bitcoin did. |
| 1:03.4 | And if I sound a little flat today, my football team lost last night. |
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