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The Peter McCormack Show

Bitcoin Mining in Distress with Nick Hansen - WBD585

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

Power, Politics, Government, Markets, News, Society & Culture, Technology, Society, Inflation, Finance, Bitcoin, Economics, Money

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2022

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Nick Hansen is the CEO of Bitcoin mining software firm Luxor Technologies. In this interview, we discuss the distress within the Bitcoin mining industry caused by a perfect storm of leverage, stagnant value, huge growth in capacity, energy price shocks and wider headwinds affecting investment. This could become a national security issue.

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Exactly one year ago, US Bitcoin mining companies were posting record quarterly profits. A huge amount of investment followed China's mining ban making North America the centre of global Bitcoin mining. It spurred the development of mega miners: companies developing industrial-scale operations. These companies started building out new sources of energy and developing unique relationships with grid operators. And Bitcoin's price was at an ATH.

Roll on one year, and the industry is facing a potential crisis. Bitcoin price is at 2-year lows, the hash rate is at an all-time high, investment is drying up due to a range of issues, rig prices have tanked, whilst a swath of companies are struggling to manage debt obligations. Add to this the wider fallout as a result of the FTX collapse. It really is a perfect storm.

At the same time, companies are being buffeted by widespread disinformation, and polarised attacks predicated on energy usage concerns. Regulators seeking to acquiesce to those promoting FUD, have considered, recommended, and brought forward poorly designed rules. See the NY moratorium on PoW mining using fossil fuels just passed into law.

This is more than a parochial issue for the Bitcoin community. Bitcoin mining provides an unprecedented opportunity for wider society. It's the basis for an alternative to a broken economic system and the means with which to incentivise and support the energy transition at scale. It is the industry to help the US navigate a host of strategic problems. Bitcoin mining is, fundamentally, a national security issue. Its protection should be our primary focus.


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0:00.0

This time to mine ever in Bitcoin. People were shoveling money in as quickly as they can. Less than 12

0:13.6

months later, it's the least profitable time to mind ever. It is very

0:16.8

difficult to make massive strategic pivots in that amount of time.

0:20.6

Hello there, how are you all?

0:23.0

Are you having a good week?

0:24.0

Are you coping out there?

0:25.0

I know the Bitcoin price action hasn't been too great recently.

0:29.0

Listen, I've been here before.

0:30.0

I've been here twice before.

0:32.0

This happens. Just hold hold tight be strong out there

0:35.2

also look things get pretty weird I'm not sure if you've seen but SBF is being

0:39.5

invited to be interviewed at conferences rather than being arrested for squandering billions of

0:44.2

customer funds.

0:45.2

I'm not sure what the fuck that's all about.

0:47.0

But anyway, listen, welcome to the What Bitcoin did Pop Cars, which is brought to you by

0:50.1

Gemini, the only place I'm using for buying Bitcoin.

0:52.8

I'm your host Peter McCormack, and today I've got my buddy Nick Hanson back on the show.

0:56.8

He is a CEO of Luxor.

0:58.9

Now I spoke with Nick last October when Bitcoin mining was really in the midst of a bonanza.

1:04.0

But since then the industry has been going through some pretty tough times.

1:07.0

There's been this perfect storm of too much leverage, poor Bitcoin price action,

1:12.0

and then a huge growth in capacity but energy price

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