Bitcoin Is Just Getting Started (Most People Don’t See It Yet) | Natalie Brunell, Russell Okung, & Bill Miller IV
The Pomp Podcast
Anthony Pompliano
4.6 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 4 March 2026
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
Natalie Brunell, Russell Okung, and Bill Miller IV join this panel recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, we discuss bitcoin as a long-term adoption story, why it represents sovereignty and “freedom money” for many, and how athletes and traditional finance investors think about allocating to it. We also cover common criticisms, the education gap, bitcoin vs. gold, and why the panel believes we’re still early in a multi-decade trend.
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- 0:00 – Intro: Bitcoiners vs the World
- 1:00 – Russell Okung on taking his salary in bitcoin
- 4:44 – Natalie Brunell’s bitcoin journey
- 7:25 – A traditional finance view on bitcoin
- 9:08 – The bitcoin mindset & sovereignty
- 14:45 – Bitcoin, hope, & the American dream
- 17:28 – What institutions think about bitcoin
- 19:32 – How to talk about bitcoin to different audiences
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| 0:13.2 | It's a new workday. Whereas Bitcoin rewards value. It's a slow process, but look how far we've |
| 0:19.6 | come in 15 years. 15 years ago this week, |
| 0:22.8 | Bitcoin was $1. When I got into Bitcoin and when I explained Bitcoin to you, look, when you |
| 0:27.9 | own this asset, you are sovereign. You know, it took 100 years for running water to go from being |
| 0:35.0 | a possibility to being ubiquitous in houses. |
| 0:38.0 | I see this is a multi-decade trend and I think we're just getting started. |
| 0:41.2 | When we decided to do this, I was trying to think about what should the title of this panel be? |
| 0:47.7 | And the thing we came up with that I think just embodies all three of you in different ways is like Bitcoiners versus the world. |
| 0:54.1 | I feel like all four of us, frankly, on a day-to-day basis, you hear Bitcoin is dumb, Bitcoin doesn't work, Bitcoin's going down, all like the normal stuff. And that comes from like the Twitter verse. Then you've got to deal with the smart people who are like Bitcoin has no intrinsic value. Bitcoin is that. And I feel like this is brothers and sisters in arms up here of pushing back and saying, you know, hey, everyone calmed down. Russ, maybe let's start with you. You were the first professional athlete to really, I think, advocate for getting paid in Bitcoin. It's one thing for, you know, anonymous accounts on Twitter to say it, as an NFL player to say it I think people are like oh hold on say is he |
| 1:28.8 | crazy or you know is this going to catch on just talk us through a little bit as to you know that |
| 1:33.0 | experience what people were saying and how you guys kind of navigated it no problem and uh definitely |
| 1:38.4 | crazy right I'm not going to dismiss that at all I think the best way to think about sports is and |
| 1:43.6 | oftentimes as particularly after the Super Bowl we're very enamored with the game itself but oftentimes I don't dismiss that at all. I think the best way to think about sports is, and oftentimes, |
| 1:48.2 | particularly after the Super Bowl, we're very enamored with the game itself. But oftentimes we miss, right, the men, the women, the people, right, that actually involved into the sport. |
| 1:54.5 | You know, and if you think about it, football essentially is a game of percentages. |
| 1:57.8 | All right. So, you know, imagine you are 10 years old and you have displayed exceptional |
| 2:02.9 | talent, right? And you then start playing football, right? And then you move on to the high school |
| 2:10.1 | level. That means that of all of the people who played, right, and picked up in a helmet, |
| 2:16.4 | you are 1% of people who have made it to the high school level. |
| 2:19.3 | And then subsequently, if you want to make it to the collegiate level, it's essentially the same thing. |
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