You ready?

I was born ready.

Hello and welcome to the live advisory opinions podcast after the Trump versus Barbara

Birthright Citizenship Argument.

I'm Sarah Isger.

That's David French.

And we will have special guests throughout this podcast, starting with Professor Amanda

Tyler.

Now, Professor, I want to get to everything. You have filed an amicus brief in this case. You had a wonderful piece in the Atlantic. But first,

let's do big picture now that we have listened to the oral argument. David, we both went into

this thinking that the administration had a tough road

to hoe, to put it mildly, when you talk to law professors or advocates, you know, extreme

court watchers. The big debate was whether it would be 8-1 or 9-0 against the administration.

This argument was not, did not feel as lopsided as all of that.

I'm curious if it's changed your opinion on the outcome,

or maybe the vote, or maybe neither and it just,

that's how oral arguments go.

They're always a little bit more fair, even handed,

tough questions for both sides than what you know, what you sort of feel from

vibes in the briefs. Yeah, there were a couple of things about the argument that really stood out to me.

And I think one of the reasons why the vibes might feel different than sort of the incoming

commentary was how much time Justice Alito spent talking in this opinion,

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