Oh my God. Hi, it's me Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters. The show that treats popular culture as the most important kind of culture. To celebrate, analyze, and rip it apart. Troubled Waters, pits a pair of entertainers against each other in a pop culture battle to the ego death. To win this battle, each of our guests will be called upon to use their smarts.

Their rhetorical skills, the comebacks that wake them up in the middle of the night and they wish they'd said it in the moment. To earn the coveted Troubled Waters title, Pundit,

Emeritus, which will automatically give their opinion on which Brian Wilson era was his best,

more weight than a civilians, as long as its pet sounds.

You're listening to Troubled Waters. Let's meet our guests.

Our first contestant is the co-host of Secretly Incredibly Fascinating.

Right here on the Maximum Fun Network, it's Katie Golden.

Hello, Katie.

Yes, hello.

How are you?

I'm good.

As everyone knows, I'm really, really good at popular culture, as people do call it.

That's why you're here?

I'm feeling really confident.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

So where are you right now, Katie Golden?

You are...

I'm in Italy.

You're in Italy.

I love it.

What a smart move.

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