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Biorobots, The Math Of Life, Science Comics. Jan 17, 2020, Part 2

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🗓️ 17 January 2020

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Living Robots, Designed By Computer Researchers have used artificial intelligence methods to design ‘living robots,’ made from two types of frog cells. The ‘xenobots,’ named for the Xenopus genus of frogs, can move, push objects, and potentially carry materials from one place to another—though the researchers acknowledge that much additional work would need to be done to make the xenobots into a practical tool. The research was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Josh Bongard, a professor of computer science at the University of Vermont and co-author of the report, joins Ira to talk about designing cell-based structures and next steps for the technology.  The Math Behind Big Decision Making What does it mean for your health if a cancer screening is 90% accurate? Or when a lawyer says there’s a 99% chance a defendant is guilty? We encounter numbers in our everyday lives that can influence how we make big decisions, but what do these numbers really tell us?  Mathematical biologist explores these concepts and patterns in his book The Math of Life and Death: 7 Mathematical Principles That Shape Our Lives. He joins Ira to talk about the hidden math principles that are used in medicine, law, and in the media and how the numbers can be misused and correctly interpreted. The Science Comics Of Rosemary Mosco Have you ever wondered what a Great Blue Heron would write in a love letter to a potential mate? Or what the moons of Mars think of themselves? These are the scenes that nature cartoonist Rosemary Mosco dreams up in her comic Bird and Moon.   “Nature is really funny. It’s never not funny,” Mosco says in SciFri’s latest SciArts video. “You can go into the woods and find 20 or 30 hilarious potential comic prompts anywhere you go.” Viewers may come for the laughs, but they will end up learning facts, she explains. Mosco talks about her inspiration for finding the funny side of snakes, planets, and nature, and how she uses humor to communicate science.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. Later in the hour, the intersection of math and everyday life,

0:07.5

but first, remember the 1966 movie, Fantastic Voyage? It had a really interesting plot. A submarine

0:15.3

and its crew are shrunken down to microscopic size so they can be inserted into a person's body into the

0:23.1

bloodstream, travel through the arteries to repair a scientist's brain. But what if the future of

0:29.0

that sort lies not in metal and silicon, but in carefully designed collections of cells,

0:36.5

biological robots, programmed through their design to do some

0:40.6

important function.

0:42.4

Joining me now to talk about that, Josh Bondgard, he's professor in the Department of

0:46.9

Computer Science, University of Vermont, and co-author of a paper this week on the proof

0:52.1

of concept of a way to design these bio-robots

0:55.2

published in the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Welcome to the program.

1:01.0

Thanks very much, Ira. Thanks for having me on. You're welcome. You know, some of the stories about this

1:05.3

have called these structures the first living robots. Is that accurate?

1:16.0

It's close. We have a lot of colleagues that have been trying to build and successfully building machines out of DNA and other living components. The main advance for our work here

1:23.0

is that we asked an AI to actually design these biobots for us.

1:28.3

So they're living things?

1:31.3

Well, I guess we could argue about that.

1:34.3

If you zoom into one of these biobots down to the level of a cell, it is definitely a living thing.

1:41.3

Our little biobots, we nicknamed them xenobots for the moment. They're made out of

1:45.4

cells taken from xenopus lavis, the African horned frog. So they definitely qualify at some

1:52.5

level as a living system, but they are not naturally evolved organisms. So they're not,

1:58.0

they can't reproduce on their own there? They definitely cannot reproduce on their own.

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