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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Biometrics? Bring it on: Why Okta’s Jameeka Green Aaron wants passwords to go away

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Okta is a big company, a Wall Street SaaS darling. For most of us, it's the thing we have to log into 50 times a week just to get any work done. But from Okta's point of view, Jameeka Green Aaron told us, it's an identity company. I spoke with Jameeka about what "identity" really means — in the digital space, in your real life, and at work — in 2023, and how an identity-based approach might be more or less secure than other approaches. I’m also gearing up to host Code in September (apply to attend here), and I’m thinking a lot about AI — very much a challenge for the future of security, even in a biometric-based era. Links: Apple IDs now support passkeys — if you’re on the iOS 17 or macOS Sonoma betas How to use a passkey to sign in to your Google account Windows 11 tests letting you sign in to websites with a fingerprint or face Apple, Google, and Microsoft will soon implement passwordless sign-in on all major platforms Microsoft called out for ‘blatantly negligent’ cybersecurity practices Okta Faces Long Road Back At Okta, CTO and CISO collaborate by design Apply to attend the Code Conference Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Kate Cox and was edited by Callie Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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As Vice Chair and President of Microsoft, Brad Smith is front and center to some of the

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most important developments in technology today.

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And on his podcast, Tools and Weapons, he will ask guests to share how that will affect

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us today.

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Guests include Businessman's Drive, Masaewa, Microsoft's CEO, Satu Nadella, and Journalist

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Keraswisher.

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Season 2 of Tools and Weapons with Brad Smith is now streaming wherever you get your podcasts.

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while minimizing risk and costly rework.

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Hello and welcome to DeCoder.

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I'm Neil Appetel, Editor and Chief of the Virgin DeCoder is my show about big ideas,

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other problems.

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