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The LOOPcast

"Biology Is A Bigot:" Katy Faust's Fearless Rebuke of Gay Parenting, Surrogacy, and IVF

The LOOPcast

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News, News Commentary

4.7748 Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

We all see the obvious problems with surrogacy and IVF, but few want to pick that fight. Katy Faust believes it is the battle of our times and her movement, Them Before Us, gives people the framework to fight back. 

TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
07:00 Doxxing Story 
15:00 Children's Rights v Adult Rights
21:00 Who Bears The Burden?
23:30 What Arguments Are Most Effective?
28:45 Gen Z
36:08 Obergefell Needs To Go
44:18 Is IVF Pro-Life?


Website: https://thembeforeus.com/
The video: “Colette” : https://youtu.be/Gl78C7b6G1o?si=b16uC4dxAjQOSTRJ 
Katy’s Substack: https://thembeforeus.substack.com/ 
Katy in First Things: “The End of Natural Parenthood” https://firstthings.com/the-end-of-natural-parenthood/ 

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0:00.0

We all see it, right? Two men being handed a baby in a hospital, rows of petri dishes with human embryos just sitting in a freezer.

0:09.0

Something broke, and it seems like everyone has quietly accepted the new reality, that supposedly anyone has the right to children.

0:18.0

Not only would saying something be impolite, it carries serious social and professional consequences.

0:25.8

Katie Faust knows all of this personally.

0:28.8

After writing about these issues anonymously, she was exposed and doxed by a disgruntled reader.

0:34.8

An easy-going, affable mom suddenly foisted into a heated debate. It would have

0:40.0

been easy to quit. Instead, she decided to become a force for children's rights everywhere.

0:46.7

That force has now become a movement growing bigger by the day. Your story begins a little,

0:52.8

not predictably, I would say, in sort of a progressive home, right?

0:56.6

Your parents divorced when you were pretty young, 10 years old, I believe, and your father dated,

1:02.7

remarried. Your mother actually repartnered or married another woman. And so you sort of saw

1:09.6

all of the modern family in your own childhood. But today,

1:14.4

you're one of the leading voices, you and your organization then before us, in defending a child's

1:21.2

right to a mother and a father. And you take the lead on all of these more traditional family values. So could you share with us

1:30.9

sort of how you got from child to Katie Foss today? Well, I always say it was a divine setup

1:38.6

because I was not expecting to jump into the most hostile culture war issues at all on that sort of

1:46.2

Christian spectrum of truth teller and grace giver.

1:49.0

I am naturally much more of a grace giver.

1:51.3

Like I would rather not make waves.

1:52.9

I would rather not confront.

1:54.2

I'd rather not have hard conversations.

1:56.0

I want to keep my friends.

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