If you look at what's happening in a cell in order for a cell to live or divide, it's far beyond anything that humans engineer.

So that same conclusion is justified, I think, not just that it requires information and intelligence, but it requires, in the case of living things, extraordinary superhuman intelligence.

ID, the future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

You might find this hard to believe, but back in Charles Darwin's day,

the cell was thought of as little more than a piece of jelly.

Thomas Henry Huxley called it a simple, homogenous globule of

undifferentiated protoplasm. Jelly, like those squishy needle squeeze toys that my kids like to play with.

But, you know, today, thanks to discoveries in molecular biology, we've discovered the cell

is something far more astonishing. And that begs a crucial question.

If the cell is infinitely more than Darwin envisioned, can a Darwinian process really explain its

origin or how it came to produce the diversity we see in life? Welcome to ID the Future. I'm your

host, Andrew McDermid. Well, today I begin a two-part conversation with molecular biologist Dr. Douglas Axe and biochemist Dr. Michael Behe,

two experts featured in the new movie The Story of Everything.

Over two episodes, we're going to discuss their participation in the movie, and we'll unpack some of the insights they share in the film.

I've also got some exclusive clips to share with the guys while we're talking, so that

will make things a bit more interesting. Let's jump right in. Well, welcome, gentlemen.

Great to be here.

Hey to be with you, Andrew. Yeah, it's great to speak to one of you, but to have both of you at the same time is a real treat.

Now, first, in case our audience hasn't heard about the movie, we're going to play a one-minute

trailer for The Story of Everything, just so you can get a taste of what's in store.

Here's that now.

Today, I'm going to tell you a story which may seem very strange to you.

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