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Hello, Katie. Hello Katie Prescott.

Hello, Danny Fawtson.

And hello, listener.

Welcome back to the Times Tech podcast with Katie in London.

And Danny in San Francisco.

Katie, if there's one thing we've been talking about more than anything since we joined to forces for this very fine podcast, it's vibe shifts.

And we've had one real big vibe shift from Biden's approach to big tech to Trump's.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a vibe shift that was literally visible in the images from the president's inauguration back in January.

Those famous picks of all of the tech bros lining up with President Trump.

Yes. And maybe shifting again in light of his tariff adventures, as we heard a little bit last week.

Yeah, ever-changing relationship. But there is one vibe shift that has happened very clearly.

And that is around crypto in a really, really big way.

Yes, exactly.

And we've been wanting to kind of get into this for a while.

So today's are much anticipated.

People have been clamoring for it.

Much promised crypto episode. So prepare,

prepare for an alphabet soup of crypto acronyms. Danny, there's no need for FOMO in this pod.

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