Spiegel and Holmes.

Cal Ripkin, 2632 games in a row is very impressive, but we have something called the radio Iron Man Street.

It is the number of days that Lawrence Holmes and I, Matt Spiegel, actually work together in a row.

I think we got up to 32.

32 years ago.

So if someone's not interested in Billy as our coach and Billy wants to 32 years or? Afternoons on the score.

So if someone's not interested in Billy as our coach and Billy wants to be our coach

and someone's not interested in that, then they're probably not the right candidate for us.

That was Michael Reinsdorf talking about some of the non-negotiables that are available

as they search for someone to head up their basketball operation and the non-negotiables that are available as they search for someone

to head up their basketball operation. And the non-negotiable is that Billy, if he wants to be

the coach, can still be the coach. If he wants to be, what does he want? What does he want? We

don't know. We don't know. But here's what Billy had to say yesterday. This is what he said in his

pre-game presser about ownership.

Well, as the owner of the team, I think whatever he feels is best, he should do.

But I would say this, you know, in any job, even your jobs, I think the greatest freedom you have is space and autonomy to do your job and be creative in your job. And they are

unbelievable, both Jerry and Michael, allowing people to have space and freedom to do that. And I think it

allows a person, you know, creativity in their job. I think one of the things that's always a little

bit challenging is, you know, if you're in a job and you feel like, like that's the job, his, but you know, you don't have any autonomy. You know what I mean? And it's like the same thing as you as a writer. You probably want to have freedom to express, you know, your things and you want to have, I mean, obviously there's a certain level you can go to, but you want to have freedom to be able to be the best version of yourself. I admire them for that. But if they want to come in and say, listen, I'm going to pop in and do a little bit more. I'm all for that. But I'm also incredibly grateful that there is a lot of autonomy in all of our jobs, not my job. I think in everybody's job. And that's why I think, you know, working for all them is unique. And I feel a great level of

responsibility in my job because there is autonomy to try to go out there and do the best you can

with what you have. So he knows that's the way it has to be. And he knows whoever gets the job above

him deserves to have that as well. Yeah. And we've talked about it a million times.

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