BILLS SQUAD SHOW: EVOLUTION: Jim Leonhard DETAILS How Bills Defense Will ADAPT in Year One, CHANGE in Progress
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🗓️ 26 May 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Jeremy White, and I'm hoping someone can explain this Bill's defense to me, and I'm not sure Jim Leonard's the one to do it. |
| 0:10.9 | I'm Joe Marino, and I had no idea Jeremy was going to say that, but Jim Leonard certainly had this quote that has me thinking a lot. |
| 0:17.8 | He said, quote, I had a vision for what I wanted to be, and it might not totally get there in year one. |
| 0:23.8 | I'm the big O Jerry Estroski, and after listening to this Jim Leonard Press conference, this defense reminds me of a black sheep song. |
| 0:32.7 | You can get with this or you can get with that, but I think you'll get with this because this is where it's at. |
| 0:39.1 | Anyway, this is the Lockdown Network and you're watching Bill Squad. |
| 0:42.9 | Who's ready, Bill's Mafia? It's the Bill's squad. Everything Buffalo Bills every week. |
| 0:49.7 | Breaking down the big hits and game changing plays the way only the Lock-on podcast network can nobody circles the wagons like the buffalo bills so gear up and squad up the bill squad show starts now the bill's mafia is the bill squad show jeremy white jo and the big O'Jerry O'Hastrowski. Your schedule's all over the place, you know, it's the summer, it's the offseason, sometimes we're waiting for press conferences. Sometimes it's Memorial Day. Sometimes something's going on. We're here with you and happy to have you along this afternoon. And talking Jim Leonard as he takes over this defense. he spoke today with the media at OTAs. And, uh, you know, like guys, I'll be honest. Like I was kind of the cold open there. I listened to a bunch of it. I thought in a complimentary way, like, there's a lot going on with this defense. And when Jim Leonard has asked, hey, can you simplify it? The answer in short is no. He can't. |
| 1:45.1 | He's like, well, think about this. And then maybe think about this. And these guys are over. It was a complicated press conference to a point. So it's definitely going to be a very different defense. Because if there's one thing I think we all knew, we knew what a Shaw McDermott defense was going to look like. And what it was going to do. and with Jim Leonard, like Joe, you even alluded to it there in your open as well. |
| 2:04.1 | There's what it was going to do. And with Jim Leonard, like Joe, you even alluded to it there in your open as well. There's what it will be. And then there's what it is going to be. He kind of laid out a timeline, which I think is important and also I think smart to do in this kind of transition. It's got to be that way, right? I mean, this is a massive change for what the |
| 2:20.1 | bills are going to be defensively. And it's unrealistic to think that everything he wants, |
| 2:25.3 | he's going to get in one off season, especially after they spent the previous draft stock in |
| 2:31.0 | the cupboard for a completely different defense. And now they're having to tweak |
| 2:34.8 | the bodies of some of those guys to make it work for this one. It's just a reality of the situation. |
| 2:40.0 | And I thought Jim had a lot of self-awareness to the fact that it might not be the vision I had |
| 2:46.9 | for year one. It's almost like a little bit of a, I've been listening to y'all. |
| 2:51.1 | You sound pretty excited, but let me just tell you, don't have quite all the tools I want to make this thing come to life. So we'll see, you know, he's got to make it work with what he's got. And there's been investments, but I mean, he pretty much came out and told us, yep, not everything I need quite yet. |
| 3:08.4 | Yeah. |
| 3:08.7 | I'll put the quote over the screen here again. |
| 3:10.4 | I had it there. |
| 3:11.2 | But about... investments, but I mean, he pretty much came out and told us, yep, not everything I need quite yet. |
| 3:08.2 | Yeah. I'll put the quote up on the screen here again. I had it there. But about this defense, he said, I had a vision for what I wanted to be. And then, of course, like, that's the job interview. And then, you know, it might not totally get there in year one. Okay. Tempering expectations, right? like undersell and the massive change that you've got here, Jerry. |
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