Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Koppelman. Thanks for listening. Well, this is a long time coming.

A friend of almost 20 years, Bill Simmons, who I'm looking at on Zoom right now.

And, you know, I'll admit the fact that you did Marinron before me it hurts but I'm but we're here now and I can accept it

What's funny is I didn't realize it was gonna hurt and you were like genuinely hurt and I was like I don't know he he asked me to do it you would ask me when we were at Grantland I thought it was weird to be on an interview podcast on Grantland and then it was like we'll do it some other time and then I did

Marin and it was like I was like Fredo betraying you with Johnny Ola like you

you were so upset at me. I called you and I go, I go, or I texted,

so I just have to reframe history a little.

I test you, I go,

Marin and you go, ah, I knew you'd be hurt.

Well, because you reminded me when I did it,

that I was like, oh shit, I should have told a compliment.

But I'm so happy, I'm so happy.

I'm so happy to do this dude.

I would not this is true.

I would not have a podcast if it weren't for you.

You gave me a podcast and now you'd have one

have one that's not true you would you would have stumbled it to one I'm not

taking credit for that you did give me I mean the truth of the matter is man I

don't know how you knew but like when I said to you hey I'm thinking about this you just

immediately said yeah I got to do it with me do it with Grantland like you're doing it and so

thanks for that because this has added tremendous value to my life just doing doing it and I don't know that I would have had the impetus to do it.

Like I had the idea, but I don't know if I would really done it if you weren't so

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