I'm Bill Moyers.

It's good to have your ear.

This week on Warriors & Company, the showdown nears for the Keystone XL pipeline and Bill

McKibbon says it's time for President Obama to stand up to the oil companies and just

say no.

He wants to have it both ways, mostly the fossil fuel way, and we need him to actually stand

up for the environment.

This is the fight of our times. This is the only thing that there is that can change how

the world will come out in 100, 500, 1,000, 10,000 years. It is the fight of our time and in some ways the fight of the future.

This pipeline would be a serious problem. So it's in the hands of Barack Obama, John Kerry.

Let's see what they do.

Thanks for joining us.

Welcome. In our last broadcast, I promised you more of David Simon, and I'll keep that promise

down the road.

But right now, because of the news, my guest is a journalist turned activist who has often

asked, how can you remain so optimistic and so energized when you've taken on nothing less than

the threat of global catastrophe.

It's a question he's even heard from me more than once, because I've known him for years now

as both colleague and friend. After all this time, Bill McKibbon's stamina and soulfulness

continued to amaze me. We met over a decade ago on a canoe trip together for the making

of my series America's First River about the history of the Hudson and the struggle to save

it from industrial pollution. In the fall and the winter and the spring, it's a pretty lonely,

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