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The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

Bill Martin - On The Short Side, Position Sizing Is The Biggest Driver Of Success | #170

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

The Idea Farm

Management, Investing, Business

4.8978 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2019

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In episode 170, we welcome our guest, Bill Martin. Bill and Meb start the conversation by diving into Bill’s early entrepreneurial experience running Ragingbull.com. He discusses the business, raising capital, and ultimately selling the business. After Ragingbull.com, he started a research business and InsiderScores before ultimately launching Raging Capital in 2006. Meb asks Bill to get into Raging Capital. Bill offers that the long side is fairly concentrated, focused on the long-term and thinking strategically about the businesses. The short side is where he and his team focus on a diverse basket of businesses they consider overvalued with fundamentally challenged business models. Bill describes the nuances involved in position sizing on the short-side, and even illustrates with an example of Insys Therapeutics. Next, Bill covers where he’s seeing opportunity in the world. He talks about a theme with MLPs, companies with exposure to Puerto Rico, and building products. Meb then chats with Bill about his thoughts on China. Bill walks through his thinking on China broadly, and that the network he’s building in China is beneficial to investments he’s making in the portfolio. As the conversation winds down, Bill walks through mechanics of short selling, and some names and themes he and his team are working on, including a number of firms in the public storage space, and some auto-related companies. All this and more in episode 170, including Bill’s most memorable investment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Mebb Fabor Show, where the focus is on helping you grow and preserve your wealth.

0:12.7

Join us as we discuss the craft of investing

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and uncover new and profitable ideas,

0:18.4

all to help you grow wealthier and wiser.

0:20.8

Better investing starts here.

0:23.0

Mepp Faber is the co-founder and chief investment officer at Cambria Investment Management.

0:31.0

Due to industry regulations, he will not discuss any of Cambria's funds on this

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podcast.

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All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not

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reflect the opinion of Cambria Investment Management or its

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affiliates. For more information visit cambria Investments.com.

0:49.4

Hey podcast listeners welcome we have an awesome show for you today in the middle of your summertime listening

0:56.7

Our guest is the founder of CIO raging capital management a long-short hedge fund found in 2006. That's almost 14 years in business.

1:06.0

He's also got a pretty diverse background versus entrepreneur when he was in college at fellow

1:12.3

Virginia he founded raging bull.com and followed that with an independent research business before launching his own fun almost at a billion dollars today

1:20.7

Welcome to the show Wahooahoo Wah, Bill Martin.

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Thank you, Go-Hoo's.

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Great to be here.

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It is great to be here.

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Thanks for joining us today, Bill, from New Jersey.

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It's a beautiful day here in Los Angeles.

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We got to get started back your time at Virginia.

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