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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: The MAGA Elites Are Such Frauds

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.611.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

JD originally made a name for himself as an economic populist but now spends all his time lying and ignoring the woes of the white working class. Stephen Miller is far more interested in authoritarianism than the American worker. And the biggest MAGA warrior of all, Steve Bannon, was downright smitten with Jeffrey Epstein. Meanwhile, the Trump administration is busy trying to hide the identities of other co-conspirators in the Epstein documents. Plus, the CBP has no business being deployed on the streets of American cities, Tulsi wants foreign election interference, the good news in a Texas special election result, Trump is flailing at another business—the Kennedy Center—and Bad Bunny previews his message for the Super Bowl halftime show.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

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0:51.2

monday it is groundhog day it doesn't feel like Groundhog Day with Bill

0:54.2

Crystal. You know, Bill Crystal is always keeping me fresh. I'm sad to report that Pung Satni

1:00.4

Phil has seen his shadow. So we will have six more weeks of winter, which the people of the

1:04.9

South, we know that already. And I think it's an underappreciated abdication of this administration

1:10.1

right now that like red state Republicans don't have heat and electricity and their schools aren't open for weeks.

1:17.4

And like Mississippi and Tennessee and Texas and the administration and DHS is, you know, they're focused on other matters.

1:24.1

I don't know.

1:24.7

Not really constituent service oriented.

1:26.5

We blue state, Virginians don't have. Our Fairfax County schools are staying closed again today. But I don't blame them. I mean, honestly, it's not safe. I mean, the kids have no place to wait on the sidewalk for the buses and stuff because it's like piles of ice everywhere. But somehow Fairfax County should have, like, is it impossible for them to have ice breakers as well as normal snow plows?

1:45.2

I don't know.

1:45.5

I guess it's very unusual, though, to get, honestly, a week of some freezing temperature and stuff.

1:50.1

Anyway, it's been cold.

1:51.3

Yeah, some local government failures, but I will say just in a normal administration, you would see DHS and FEMA and the president and vice president even and the National Guard troops surging towards the places where they've been weather-related deaths and people are out of their home they don't even talk about it. It's not even a thought, right? In the old days it would be like, well, maybe they could deploy some National Guard to help out with some of the tasks to free up board, the soap power operators, zero. No. They're busy.

2:17.9

They're arresting the worst of the worst, Tim, and deporting him to El Salvador and stuff. It's really making us safer as a country and better off, I think, you know. And Christy had another nip-tuck appointment last week, so she couldn't be focused on this. All right, well, we have much bad news to discuss, and a little bit of good news too.

2:33.5

We've a little bit of some political good news,

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