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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: Taking A Wrecking Ball to the Government

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Firing air traffic controllers over a busy holiday travel weekend, cutting a veterans crisis hotline, axing and then rehiring people who maintain and keep our nuclear arsenal safe: Musk and his minions aren't trying to "fix" the government. They're trying to make it more susceptible to Trump's personalized leadership. And the MIA Dems need to get out there and throw some punches since the media loves fights. Meanwhile, the US is now more of a problem than a solution on Ukraine, Elon's massive corruption isn't drawing anywhere near the same attention as Hunter/Burisma—and Bill Cassidy could just vote against Kash or delay his confirmation if he's really worried about the FBI. 

 Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller 
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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bollard podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller.

0:11.6

Happy Washington's birthday, 2025. While we're changing the names of things, we're no longer

0:17.5

observing President's Day here. We're going back to the original, the traditional.

0:22.7

Washington's birthday observed. It's not actually Washington's birthday, but, you know, details.

0:27.7

And because it's a Monday, I'm here with Bill Crystal. How you doing, Bill? I'm hanging in there.

0:33.4

How are you? I'm doing well. Do you have any other kind of name changes you're thinking about?

0:39.7

I remember it was like a little bit of a conservative thing in the 70s and 80s to object to the change from Washington's birthday to presidents.

0:46.6

I guess they were sort of mushing together Lincoln and Washington and then, of course, it had to be on a Monday.

0:50.8

But yes, insofar as it sort of implies that we equally respect all presidents.

0:55.6

It's very bad.

0:56.7

And I'm glad you've decided.

0:58.4

I'm glad you've declared the bulwark policy of not recognizing President's Day, right?

1:03.3

I mean, if we can all just adopt whatever names we want, right?

1:06.7

Yeah, we're not recognizing President's Day.

1:08.6

We're dead naming the Gulf of Mexico.

1:11.0

That's just going to how things are going here. Much to discuss, I guess, it seems like.

1:18.0

Your newsletter this morning was focused on all of the trouble that has been being created from Elon Musk's quasi governmental department of government efficiency.

1:30.7

Many different specifics I think worth getting into, but I'm just at the highest level,

1:37.6

you know, interested in what you were trying to get across.

1:41.1

I just want to recognize all it is. And as Don Moynihan, the professor of political science at

1:46.0

Michigan, says it a very good newsletter that I recommend. And he's, you know, a sober guy, serious

1:51.1

student in public administration. The point isn't government efficiency. The point is to wreck the

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