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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: Resist the Nihilism

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Trump wants us to believe that nothing matters, so we'll brush off all his corruption and grifting as though everybody does it. That's what aspiring authoritarians always do, including the guy who didn't place his hand on a Bible when he was sworn in today. Meanwhile, Trump just launched probably the biggest scam in the history of the presidency with his memecoin—ordinary people will lose real money, nothing like the small-ball amounts he scoops up with his shoes, mugs, and digital baseball cards. Plus, Biden's pardons, Trump's Day One executive orders, and seizing the means of content production with TikTok.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

show notes:

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

0:10.6

I'm your host Tim Miller.

0:11.5

It is the day of the second Trump inauguration.

0:14.3

Like most of you, I'd rather be anywhere other than here.

0:17.0

But we're destined to be here right now.

0:18.9

Might as well slog through it together.

0:20.1

It's Monday.

0:20.5

So I've got Bill Crystal, of course. A few programming notes real quick. We and Bill are taping this at about 930 Eastern and are going to be covering everything from the Trump coin on Friday night through the developments this morning. This afternoon, we'll have a post-inauguration live stream. You'll be able to get that on substacker YouTube.

0:38.4

When that is finished, tomorrow we'll have on a favorite of the pod to sort through the

0:42.3

wreckage.

0:42.8

So that's our schedule to Bill.

0:44.8

Bill, I usually start these by saying, how you doing?

0:46.8

And I'm not really asking how you're doing when I say that.

0:49.4

That's just kind of a nicety.

0:51.0

But I'm curious how you're doing, genuinely.

0:58.1

I try to cheer myself up this morning by writing a little morning shots about how we shouldn't be intimidated by all this bluster and executive orders and the entire media deciding

1:03.4

that Trump has conquered all and all these people accommodating and capitulating.

1:08.5

So I'm trying to cheer myself up, but I wanted to begin by congratulating you on Jaden Daniels' performance Saturday night

1:14.6

for the commanders.

1:15.5

So you've been promoting him for, what, at least three years, two years at LSU.

1:20.5

But you're a huge LSU booster, and I was kind of discounting that, you know, that just

1:23.8

Tim being excessively loyal to LSU. Then he came to Washington, and I've learned over the years to discount Washington Redskins now

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