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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Bill Kristol: No Nukes, No Joy, No Easy Way Out in Iran

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

John welcomes erstwhile neocon stalwart and current Bulwark seditor-at-large Bill Kristol to discuss the war in Iran, amid mounting signs that it is spiraling out of control. Kristol weighs in on the economic and military dynamics propelling the conflict; whether the U.S. is in danger of being ensnared in an escalation trap; the resignation of Trump’s top counterterrorism adviser, Joe Kent; Israel’s role in the war’s inception; and the rapid unraveling of Donald Trump’s rationales for why he started it in the first place. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:56.8

where we find ourselves at the end of a week that even by the hallucinatory standards of the Trump 2.0 era

1:02.4

produced a capulcate of head scratching, neck snapping, brain fogging headlines that would

1:08.2

make for a hell of a bleak, surrealist comedy if it weren't for

1:12.1

the stratospheric stakes of the events unleashed upon the world by the increasingly erratic, self-evidently

1:18.8

addled, and all too often just plain embarrassing president of the United States. Under normal

1:24.1

circumstances, we would probably have devoted a part or all of the show today

1:28.1

to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs confirmation hearings of

1:33.2

Mark Wayne Mullen.

1:35.2

Trump's pick to succeed Christy Knoem as DHS Secretary and the only person I've ever heard

1:40.3

of with two first names smashed into one and no middle name at all, during which

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the committee chair ran Paul rhetorically eviscerated the nominee for having publicly said

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that he completely understood the multiple rib-fracturing assault on Paul by one of his neighbors

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