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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: A Pro-Putin America First

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.611.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The Trump team is moving quickly to sell out Ukraine, but it's not clear yet whether Putin would settle for taking a quarter of the country—or if he intends to crush it, so he can plant the Russian flag in Kiev. Meanwhile, Elon has been at Mar-a-Lago every day, expanding his oligarch résumé to include helping choose the incoming president's Cabinet and advisors. Plus, key Senate Republicans are already prepping to sacrifice their constitutional duties to advise and consent, and the election denialists on the left have to accept reality.
Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

show notes
Charles Gaba's thread on the new 'Stop the Steal' conspiracy
Tim's appearance on the "Pablo Torre Finds Out" podcast

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Borg podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Happy Veterans Day,

0:13.2

especially to those who served and their families. I'm here. Today, it's Monday with Bill

0:18.5

Crystal. Bill, how did you survive the weekend?

0:21.6

Okay, okay.

0:22.9

You know, a little bit of rage, a little bit of resignation, a little bit of annoyance, a little bit of drinking.

0:28.8

It was fine.

0:29.6

Yeah, I did a lot of drinking on Saturday.

0:31.5

That's for another podcast, though.

0:33.3

Bill, you wrote this morning, stop hand-rigging, start fighting.

0:36.8

You're done with the recriminations.

0:38.3

You don't want to look back in what happened with the Hispanic vote or the Liz Cheney to town hall.

0:46.0

And I plan on having much more hand-rigging to come, actually,

0:49.8

over the next six weeks.

0:50.9

But I think that we take a day with your wisdom and focus instead on what's

0:56.1

actually happening and going forward. So I guess we'll start with what inspired your Monday

1:01.2

missive to dispense with the hand-rigging. Yeah, and I'm not against hand-wrigging at all,

1:07.0

and certainly not against recriminations. And learning lessons is actually important.

1:11.2

I just feel like everyone's learning premature lessons based on partial, in some cases,

1:15.3

actually incorrect analyses of, you know, exepos and votecast and so forth.

1:19.2

And others kind of second-guessing things that they didn't second-guess in real time.

1:23.6

And it's not clear to me were particularly mistakes in terms of some of the campaign tactics.

1:28.3

Other people are going fatalistic. Comets never went anymore. And it was hopeless anyway, which I'm

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