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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Bill Barr’s Junk Justice

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2020

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Is Attorney General Bill Barr’s dropping all charges against Michael Flynn an utter breakdown of justice? Or is it absurd to fixate on Flynn and dredge the Russia investigation up again amid a pandemic? Ross returns to debate Frank and Michelle over just how alarmed Americans should be by recent actions of the Trump Justice Department. Plus, what, exactly, is Obamagate? Then, when it comes to coronavirus, are we too quick to blame the sick? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:02.0

I'm Ross Douthit.

0:03.5

I'm Frank Bruney, and this is the argument.

0:06.5

Before we start, Ross, welcome back, Michelle and I miss you.

0:12.7

Did you really prank?

0:14.0

I know that you got some excellent fillings for me over the last two weeks, and I'm just

0:20.1

grateful that you were willing to take me back after I bailed on you guys in order to

0:25.7

propagate the human species or some nonsense like that.

0:28.9

Well, Ross, to guess we had in your place, they couldn't replace you, but they were probably

0:34.0

getting a little bit more sleep than you are these days.

0:36.9

They probably are, and were, and continue to.

0:40.6

I'm speaking to you guys from the attic of my lovely house where we have, in fact, added

0:46.4

one more human being.

0:47.7

So we now have four children, nine and under, all the way down to Little Rose Mary, who's

0:53.6

three weeks old yesterday.

0:56.9

Having the great coronavirus lockdown experience, and Rosemary is wonderful.

1:01.8

We're very happy to have her, and about the experience, the less said the better.

1:07.4

Well, Ross, I have no news to rival yours, except I should tell our listeners that I'm

1:11.5

in a sort of techno internet hell, in which my connectivity from remote location into

1:18.8

the podcast central is not so great.

1:20.9

So if today's recording sounds a little rougher, at least on my end, and usual, it is a technological

1:26.8

problem.

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