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To culture in the United States, the military wishes not to be involved in domestic affairs.

So the default position of the United States military,

if there's an opportunity to be engaged domestically, is no, we don't want to do that.

We've got a tradition, a norm, a part of our civic culture.

The military don't want to be involved.

We're unique among the nations in the world is that we entrust all law enforcement to civilians.

But as you know, if you think about many examples,

over the period the military have been involved in law enforcement.

And they've done so against the grain, cutting against the culture and the traditions,

on the basis, usually of statutory authority,

but also simply on the say so or the orders, usually of civilian leadership.

I'm Quinta Jurassic and this is the LawFair podcast, November 19th, 2016.

That was Bill Banks, professor of law at Syracuse University

and the founding director of the Institute for National Security and Counterterrorism.

Bill sat down with Benjamin Wittis at this week's Hoover Books Warray

to talk about his book with Stephen Dyckis, Soldiers on the Homefront,

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