Oh hey, it's the ghost of podcasts past, Alie Ward. I am bringing you an early lost episode

from 2017 for today, 2021. I never ever ever thought I'd air this one. This one was dead to me.

It has been sealed tightly in a vault for three and a half years in shame. It's one of the very,

very first interviews I ever did forology is before the podcast even really existed,

before there was like a format, before I figured, mesh it out, before any pandemics, and definitely

before I knew how to use sound recording equipment. And so I need to warn you, if this is your very,

very first episode of all of these, you're ever listening to, please go away, just stop, just put

a pin in this episode, turn around, pick another episode. Okay, all the jites, people who have been

around long enough to know all my secrets and call me dad. This one's for you. This episode, again,

dead and gone. Every time I thought about this interview, I cringed. And even like now, I literally

got like tingles at my spine and I shuddered. I'm 100% honest. Okay, so here's what happened. It was June

2017, before I ever released the firstology episode. I went to London for work and I packed all my

audio equipment just for this interview. And I met up at the Natural History Museum of London

for an interview about parasitology. I did the mic check, not realizing that the two handheld

microphones were picking up nothing. And instead it was just the little built-in mic capturing us

talking. Now we're able to sweeten the sound, make it work a little bit. But before I tell you the

rest, just a really quick thanks to all the folks on Patreon, patreon.com suchologies. Thank you,

everyone, to everyone who rates and subscribes, especially people who write reviews, such as this one

from Hi, my name is who listens while boiling coyote bones in a lab, they say, and they wrote,

I'm truly in tears thinking about how allergies has filled my heart and brain with excitement and

joy while living some of my darkest days of this year. Thank you, Hi, my name is, please don't make

me cry. So the topic is bilharziology. And you're like, the fuck is that? Okay, so bilharzia are

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