Biggest Surprises, Biggest Disappointments, and What We Love and Hate From This Season. Plus: Verno Can’t Let Ja Go.

The Mismatch

The Ringer

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4.7 • 5.6K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2026

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Verno and Jacoby are together in New York, and they discuss the reports that the Grizzlies are open to trading Ja Morant. Verno explains why a trade would be bad for both sides and why he hopes Ja will stay in Memphis. Next, they recap some of the Monday night action, including the Jazz's upset win against the Cavs, the Sixers defeating the Raptors, and Joe Mazzulla blaming illegal screens for the Celtics' loss to the Pacers. Next, with the season nearing the halfway point, the guys share their biggest surprises, biggest disappointments, and one thing they love and hate about this season so far. (00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch! (00:55) The Grizzlies are open to trading Ja Morant (25:58) Monday night scores and recaps (37:25) Verno's and Jacoby’s biggest surprises (47:53) Verno's and Jacoby’s biggest disappointments (54:25) What Verno and Jacoby love about the season so far (01:01:52) What Verno and Jacoby hate about the season so far Leave us a message on our Mismatch voicemail line! (323) 389-5091 Hosts: Chris Vernon and David Jacoby Producers: Jessie Lopez, Stefan Anderson, and Jeff Shearin Social: Keith Fujimoto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the mismatch off Chris Vernonarnan and joining me right in person.
0:22.5	In person.
0:24.7	The ringer.com is Dave Jacoby. Jacoby.
0:27.5	I think this is a very important show that we do in person.
0:29.8	Oh.
0:30.8	Because since we last have spoken, there has been some news about your Memphis Grizzlies.
0:35.8	And it's not about Cam Spencer.
0:54.6	It's about John Moran. And I think when this news breaks, I would say 90% of the basketball world says, I want to know what Chris Vernon thinks about this. Maybe 95% of the basketball world says that. And here we are. In person. You're in New York City. We're in studio together.
0:55.0	We are.
0:55.6	It's okay.
0:57.0	Safe place you can cry.
1:01.7	What is your reaction to this news as the pulse of the Grizzlies?
1:02.2	Chris Vernon.
1:05.3	So let's start here.
1:11.4	If you're listening to the show we recorded on Friday, one of the things that I said in passing was,
1:14.4	I don't know what's going to happen,
1:17.5	but I told you at that point,
1:19.0	I said there's three games in a row
1:20.7	that they have listed him as questionable,
1:23.1	and he has not played.
1:24.8	And now at that point,
1:26.5	I was going to be going to Memphis versus Oklahoma
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