Wharton, here with our best guest on a regular basis without any question, Tom Crawford,

out of East Lansing, Michigan. You see him on all kinds of videos that he produces,

and you see him on Press Pass on Sunday nights with Jack Ebling.

You see him all over the place.

But we love to see him here because he always, he brings the knowledge and the passion.

Mr. Crawford, welcome back to the podcast.

Well, J.B., you're making me feel good.

You say that to all your co-host on here on the podcast, I'm sure. Well, J.B., you're making me feel good. You say that to all your,

your co-host on here on the podcast, I'm sure. No, all kidding aside. First of all, I want to thank

you. We appreciated you, J.B. A lot of, a lot of good feedback. Your appearance with Rico

Beard and myself, I'm Jack Ebbling's press pass on Fox 47 through Stream Yard,

which we're using right now.

And you did a terrific job.

And we stayed away from quarterback controversy dialogue or triple log, whatever you want to call it.

It was awesome.

And we got in some really good issues.

And thank you again for my friend for doing that. Well, that was, it was awesome. And we got in some really good issues. And thank you again

for my, my friend, for doing that. Well, that was a lot of fun. And it always is when we get together.

And adding Rico just is like adding a little, little mini firecracker to the mix. And I like i i like rica a lot obviously and uh he is on the other side of the fence coverage wise but uh good good friend and it was a lot of fun let's talk uh one of the things that we were talking about then and I want to talk to you about now is

this whole league expansion thing I mean the last time we talked USC and UCLA we're not

members of the big 10 or or members to be now I grew up as up as a kid watching Michigan lose some very close, tough games in the Rose Bowl to USC in particular.

And one of the thoughts I always had was, you know, I wonder how this would go if this was being played back in

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