What does going higher look like for you?

What does going higher look like for you?

For my guest today, it means sobriety, journaling, and daily practices of self-acceptance.

Big Sean is the artist behind some of the most

noteworthy hip-hop songs of the last two decades. But today, he is using his voice on a different

medium, this time a book, fulfilling a lifelong goal to call himself an author. Though Big Sean is quick

to tell you, go higher five practices for purpose, success, and inner peace

is not just a book.

It's a culmination of years of personal and professional growth.

Driven by his own desire to empower others,

Big Sean feels a strong calling to share insights from his experiences.

As we chat today, Big Sean opens up about his big break, his battle with addiction, and the implications of becoming

finally famous. Plus, why a 20-piece nugget meal for McDonald's still holds a special place

in his heart. I found him to be equal parts endearing

and full of wisdom. This conversation marks the first for Big Sean and me, and let me tell you

his voice, not a bad one to spend a little while listening to. I'm Hoda Cotby. Welcome to my podcast,

Making Space.

First of all, I am so happy to be sitting with you.

I've never had the opportunity, and I've heard so many awesome things about the life you're living. That's good. And I feel like you're in a phase,

and I want to get to your whole life, but you are in this moment right now where you have found

something that people are seeking. It's like the Rosetta Stone.

It's like, I kind of got it.

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