do do do do do do do do here we go my name's todd and mrs cathy welcome back to another episode of zen

parenting radio this is podcast number 654 why listen to zen parenting radio because you'll feel

outstanding and always remember our motto which is the best predictor of a child's well-being, is a parent's self-understanding.

On today's show, we have a friend, a friend who we just met.

But Ben Feller is his name, and I'm going to introduce him in a second about who he is and what he does.

But he came to us through another friend of Kathy's and mine, Debbie

Reber. Sweetie, who's Debbie Reber again? She is the author of Differently Wired, and she runs the

podcast called Tilt Parenting. And we've had her on the show. She's been at our conference. She was

in our virtual summit. And so we really... Did she speak at her,

she spoke at her conference, right? She spoke at the live conference and the summit. And she's really, you know, such a place for talking about neurodivergence, talking about self-aware parenting,

talking about how we can, you know, create community when it comes to our kids. So we have

deep respect for her. And she and Ben, who we have today, they have a history. They've known

each other a long time. They have. They have. Debbie Reber, she is somebody we love. Right.

She's the cat's meow, sweetie. Can you come out with another, like, bad way of, she's the bees' knees? Yeah, they're all bad. What does that mean? I don't know. I don't know either. So Ben Feller is a communications advisor and former award-winning chief White House correspondent for the Associated Press during his years covering President Barack Obama and George W. Bush. He helped lead the White House press corps,

traveled aboard Air Force One, and was honored as a master of deadline reporting. Now he's writing

about his personal passion, being a dad, which is what brings him here. And no topic is off limits,

and we might ask you some questions that you get asked a lot regarding your experience in the White House.

But first and foremost, Ben Feller, thank you for showing up. Say hello, Ben.

Hello, Todd. Hello, Kathy. Thank you for having me. It's pleasure to be here, and I will endorse the fact that Debbie Reber is the bees and east. I don't know what it means either, but I'm with you.

Okay, so, sweetie sweetie where do you want

to start should we start with uh writing books or should we talk about well yeah let me just let me dive

into that because like todd said i do want to get into your history because it is so interesting but

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