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Sign up now to listen at slate.com slash mood. Hello and welcome back to Good Mood Little Mood. I am your host Danny M. Laverry and

with me in the studio this week is Adrian Bain, the host and creator of A Race

Around the World based on the True adventures of Nellie Bly and

Elizabeth Bisland. She's also the creator of the popular travel podcast Strangers

Abroad as well as a writer, live storyteller and solo world traveler.

Adrian, welcome to the show.

Oh my God, it's a delight to be here.

I'm so excited that you're here and I was so pleased with myself when you mentioned a race

around the world and you said two reporters from the 1880s I said one of them's got to be

Nellie Bly 100% and did she just have like amazing press like why is it that she

more than any I feel like Nellie Bly is always showing up in media about that era as just like a

shorthand for like new women, urbanization, reporters, like, but surely she, it wasn't

just her and Ida B Wells and and nobody else but I feel like they get the best press. There's like a small

percentage of them. There's another woman that the that Elizabeth Bisland runs into named Winifred Black who's out in San Francisco

so like that's kind of all that came up in my own reporting and like research of it but I will say that most female writers, journalists at the time,

about 2% of journalists were women and most of them wrote about like cranberry elixirs and how to sew a beautiful gown that looks like

the Rockefeller's you know it wasn't this hard-hitting racing upstairs to get the story kind of a emo but Nellie Bly was cut different for sure and

she the moment she like she really elbows her way into being a serious reporter because she looks at all she

hates doing like talking about the women's fear she's like this is the most boring

should have ever seen and I like don't want to talk about

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