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In the move, in the move, in the move, in the move,

in the move, in the move. Hello and

welcome back to Big Mood Little Moot with me in the studio this week is Ben Gullard, an artist living in Brooklyn who designs

who designs for children's science museums.

He's also my oldest and best friend in the world.

Ben Gullard, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me.

I want you to know that this is how I found out what your job is.

I figured.

Yeah, that's really cool.

Because it changes a lot and also you're the type of person that you know I forget things yeah I

forget things like what is my oldest and best friends in the world it's a job but you know

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