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Hello, welcome back to the Big Mood, Little Mood podcast. I'm your host, Danny M. Levery,

and with me in the studio this week are Kristen Meinser, an award-winning podcaster, author,

and culture critic, and Jolenta Greenberg, a New York-based comedian and author.

Together, the two of them host a podcast called How To Be Fine, where they discuss

wellness-related questions and help debunk self-help myths and promises.

Welcome to the show. Thank you both so much for making time.

Oh, thanks for what you're having us. We're delighted to be here.

I am so delighted to have you. I'm sorry. I didn't have a lot of questions in the hopper this week

that felt quite connected to the themes of wellness and self-help, so I can't really pretend

there's going to be like a natural segue into asking you about your own show later.

So I'm just saying that now so that when later I say, well, tell me about your show,

no one feels surprised. Good, good. We like to prepare our listeners.

Well, and it's kind of a shame, too, because I feel like I do not too infrequently get questions

along those lines, so I just mostly feel bad that I couldn't supply you with any of them today.

Oh, we're just happy to be here. You can ask us anything. Listeners can ask us anything.

Yeah, we're here for it. Yeah, and certainly we'll be able to offer help

that we hope people will themselves take. So in that sense, it's always a little bit connected

to self-help. But I'm pleased that you're here, especially because the first question has to do

with group dynamics, and there are more than just two of us. So that's kind of nice. We can be able

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