Big Misses & Re-Thinking How We Project Future Fantasy Value
Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball
The Athletic
4.7 • 874 Ratings
🗓️ 8 September 2020
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
Eno and DVR discuss the collective 'miss' on Shane Bieber, the challenge of using the 20-80 scale to set expectations for players from a fantasy perspective, the demotion of Dylan Carlson, and more.
Rundown
5:12 Why Did I (We) Miss on Shane Bieber?
10:55 What Is the Most Important Tool for a Hitter and for a Pitcher?
16:34 Hit Tool as a Measure of Future Success
20:44 Listener Collin Turns Our Secret Sauce Into Z-Scores
28:13 Is Hit Tool Too Subjective?
35:29 What Do We Make of Forrest Whitley Now?
41:11 Dylan Carlson Demoted
45:36 Choosing Keepers in Shallow Long-Term Leagues
49:13 How Much Will We Value 2020 Results Going Forward?
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| 1:11.2 | It's Tuesday, September 8th. |
| 1:12.9 | Derek Van Riper here with Enoseres. |
| 1:15.2 | On this episode, we are going to discuss why I missed on Shane Bieber as a prospect. |
| 1:21.3 | Why maybe all of us kind of missed on Shane Bieber as a prospect, |
| 1:25.1 | using that as sort of a launching point for looking at the |
| 1:27.5 | 20 to 80 scale and tools and what we're looking for in minor league players and maybe how there |
| 1:32.5 | are some problems with how that traditional 20 to 80 scale is used and how we as fantasy |
| 1:39.4 | players are looking for very specific things from players as we stashed them away in Keeper in Dynasty |
| 1:45.0 | leagues and as we set our expectations for them in redraft leagues as well. |
| 1:49.4 | So we get some great emails that are related to that topic. |
| 1:52.4 | And I'm sure we'll talk a little bit about Dylan Carlson getting sent down to the alternate |
| 1:56.5 | site that happened just before we started recording on Tuesday mornings. |
| 2:00.9 | We'll get to that and a few other topics along the way. |
| 2:04.0 | Eno, how's it going for you on this Tuesday? |
| 2:06.0 | That's going great. |
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