You're listening to Bulletproof Radio with Dave Asprey.

I am recording this live in Hawaii with Gempo Roche, who's been on the show once before.

Gempo has become a friend and he's a Buddhist master who teaches the big mind form of meditation

and has been studying for about 40 years.

I wanted to take this episode to talk about happiness specifically with him and what he's

learned from his path, which has been a very long and interesting path.

So we're going to go into it for about a half hour.

And I think you'll find a lot of really insightful and useful information because if you want

to perform better as a human being and you're unhappy all the time, you're doing it wrong.

So Gempo, thank you for taking time out on this vacation that I think we're both having

here.

You just finished teaching one of your five day retreats and I appreciate the extra time

to have an interview for our listeners.

So people who missed the first episode with you, can you walk me through your history?

What made you become a Zen master and what were the big formative experiences?

And then let's dial in specifically on what you learned about happiness in your own path.

You know, Dave, that's an interesting question.

I've been asked similar questions a lot, but you said, what made you become a Zen master?

It's kind of interesting.

So I have to backtrack.

So February 71, I had my big opening or awakening that changed my life forever.

And I now can say forever.

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