Hi guys, this is Emmanuel. It has been a very long time. I'm here today because I have a brand new podcast out.

It's called Big Lives and the way it works, each episode, me and my co-host, Kai Wright,

trying to figure out some of the questions and messy feelings that we've always had about some of our biggest cultural icons.

And we do so every week by taking you on a journey through the BBC's vast archives.

Like basically anything recorded on TV or radio on the BBC in the last hundred plus years.

And we get into all kinds of interesting moments that you might not have seen or

heard before or in some cases some really wildhouse stuff that you've never seen because it was

never aired. And we just have this unbelievable tape from all kinds of people, from Muhammad Ali to

David Bowie to Amy Winehouse. Anyways, I'm going to stop yapping now, and I'm just going to play one of these episodes

for you.

I really hope you like it.

And if you do, head over to the Big Lives feed and subscribe.

Okay, let's get to it.

From BBC Studios and Pushkin Industries, this is Big Lives.

I'm Emmanuel Jochi.

I'm Kai Wright.

We are both journalists and cultural obsessives, and we just love trying to understand the world through an individual person's life.

And by individual person, we're talking about folks who are the architects of our culture, people

who have a huge impact on the way we live now, but often you've been kind of flattened

to this single image or to a single moment.

We're diving into these complicated big lives of these icons, and to do it, we are using

the treasure trove of the BBC archive.

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