From Wired, this is the big interview. I'm Katie Drummond.

I first met Daniel Lurie, San Francisco's newly minted mayor, about five minutes before we walked on stage at Wired's big interview event held in his city last week.

Lurie's team let me know ahead of time that his window for this conversation was tight.

He'd just come from announcing a new city police chief and had about half an hour for me

before he needed to be on to the next thing, which was,

No idea, Lurie quipped, shortly before we were foisted from backstage

and into our conversation in front of several hundred attendees.

It was a local crowd who, judging from their boisterous reactions to Lurie's Every Word,

are among the 73% of San Franciscans who approve of the job he's done since taking office in January of this year.

To Lurie's credit, the story of San Francisco right now is largely a positive one.

The city is indisputably the global hub of AI innovation and the billions of dollars that accompany it.

With companies like Anthropic and Open AI, along with smaller startups, investors and plenty of young,

AI-focused technologists all calling San Francisco home.

Yes, that means rents are up and housing stock remains precariously low.

But office vacancy rates are dropping, retail outlets are coming back to the cities downtown,

and as Lurie's office is quick to tout, several key metrics measuring municipal crime,

including homicides and car break-ins, are at historic lows. I wanted to talk to Lurie about

all of that, but I was also curious about the bigger picture,

his administration's dynamic with the federal government,

particularly in the context of President Trump's October plan

to send the National Guard into San Francisco,

an endeavor that Lurie managed to thwart,

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