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Uncanny Valley | WIRED

BIG INTV: Patreon CEO Jack Conte Wants You to Get Off of Your Phone

Uncanny Valley | WIRED

WIRED

Technology

4.1572 Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Jack Conte, founder of Patreon tells Katie if we can send rockets into space and have self-driving cars we can figure out how to pay creators for their work. In this interview recorded in front of a live audience in San Francisco, Jack talks about how to build a lifelong audience beyond clicks, and why keeping Patreon a private company has been a strength. 


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome everybody to Wired's Uncanny Valley, the live show, in partnership with the one and only listener-supported KQED.

0:18.0

Of course, we are coming to you from the Commons in the heart of San

0:21.6

Francisco. I am Katie Drummond. It is truly me, Wired Magazine's global editorial director,

0:26.8

and we have a great show for you tonight. Joining me on stage is co-founder and CEO of Patreon,

0:31.6

a company that could only have existed in the internet age, and is at the heart of keeping

0:36.6

creators able to create.

0:39.0

So I am so thrilled to bring out Bay Area Native Jack Conti.

0:43.0

Hello?

0:50.0

We were talking backstage about how we would greet each other and he had a very elaborate

0:55.5

handshake in mind and I said I couldn't possibly we will not be doing that Jack thank you so much

1:03.3

for being here in front of all of our new friends here in this public auditorium to be interviewed

1:08.0

for Wyard's new podcast The Big Interview which you can listen to on the Uncanny Valley Feed.

1:13.1

Now, before we...

1:13.7

Yes.

1:14.4

Before we really get too far into it,

1:16.1

we always start with a little bit of rapid fire, some warm-up.

1:19.5

So are you ready for your warm-up?

1:21.2

Okay, let's go.

1:22.6

Jack, what is the most active text thread that you're on?

1:27.9

I am not on any active text threats.

1:32.0

I try to do as little of that as possible.

1:35.3

Very interesting.

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