From Wired, this is the big interview. I'm Katie Drummond.

Melinda French Gates wishes everyone understood that philanthropy doesn't solve everything.

But it sure seems like nonprofits have fewer and fewer places to look these days.

According to the Center for American Progress, President Trump's Doge has cut at least $3 billion

in grants for research, education,

and other programs that support women and girls.

It's almost as if French Gates had started preparing

for this possibility over a decade ago.

In 2015, the co-founder of the Gates Foundation

started pivotal ventures, an organization fully focused on the health and social progress of women and girls.

She said it many times on paper and out loud, quote,

I don't want my granddaughters to grow up with fewer rights than I did.

We talked about all that, along with workplace struggles, a public divorce, starting over,

and lingering questions from her most revealing memoir yet. Here's that conversation.

Melinda French Gates, welcome to the big interview. Thank you so much for being here.

Thanks for having me, Katie. So we always start these conversations with some rapid fire questions. It's a warm up. Get your brain working. Get your muscles working. Are you ready?

I'm ready. Okay. First thing you do when you wake up in the morning. Get my coffee.

One tech product you wish you could invent for women's health.

Self-controlled reproductive tool.

Ooh, I like that. I want to hear more about that.

One myth about philanthropy you wish people would stop believing.

That it can solve everything.

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