From Wired, this is the big interview. I'm Katie Drummond.

After his first startup got sued by the porn industry, you'd think Matthew Prince would lay low for a while.

Instead, he went to Harvard Business School and came up with another idea, Cloudflare.

The company officially launched in 2010. The basic idea?

Act as a middleman between websites,

apps, and their visitors. Cloudflare works similarly to a bodyguard for the internet. It filters

out bad traffic, keeps websites safe, makes them load faster, and stops them from crashing when

too many people visit at once. You've used the internet with Cloudflare's help today, I guarantee it, without even knowing

it.

Prince continues to evolve the way Cloudflare works.

The company recently made news after introducing a new blocker tool targeted at unauthorized

AI content scraping.

The tool effectively creates a pay-per-crawl model, requiring content-hunting AI platforms to pay for what they want to access.

Good to have you here, Matthew. Thanks for having me. Oh, I'm delighted. Now, you should have been warned

ahead of time, but you probably weren't. We always

start these conversations with some rapid fire questions, like a warm-up. Sound good? Sort of like

wind-sprints or something. Exactly. We're going to wind-sprint our way through some questions.

What's the most embarrassing thing that regularly shows up in your feeds?

That regularly shows up in my feeds.

Probably just all the political content on X is pretty embarrassing.

It is embarrassing.

It's an embarrassing country right now.

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