I'd never met anyone like him.

We'd drive around Rome on his Vesper.

And he'd read me poetry from the old steps.

And that's when I knew I was in love.

I didn't know you and Grandin met him out of Italy.

Oh, no. We met the following year.

Grant!

Anyway, Paris was even wilder.

Getting to know Gran before she was Grand.

On the train, you can.

This is a Global Player Original podcast.

Hello and welcome to the first bonus episode of Big Fish, Big Fish and Chip.

Each week I'm going to be joined by my former therapist, Chip Summers, to unpack what's going on in my life and discuss how we can all become the best and most successful versions of ourselves.

I'll be talking about the challenges that I'm facing, but also exploring what my guests are

facing. If you've ever wondered what it would be like to sit in on one of my therapy sessions,

then you've come to the right place. Now, for those of you that have been listening since the

first series,

you might remember a discussion that I had with Joanne McNally about therapy.

I talked to her about the first time that I ever went to see a therapist.

I'd been referred to an addiction specialist by my then agent,

and I was hell-bent on going into that meeting to prove them both wrong.

But how this therapist handled me changed my life and made me realize that I was a

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